Monday Morning Fika: The Pros and Cons of F/F Writing by Lucy Felthouse

Good morning!  We have something quite exciting for you today at Monday Morning Fika: our very first F/F Fika guest!  Woohoo!  Lucy Felthouse is a writer of many talents, including both spanking and F/F fiction.  Please note that the F/F books she mentions here are not spanking stories.  Her spanking stories include the following:

  • Pride – The Sweetest Revenge
  • Weekend at Wilderhope Manor
  • Punish Me Good
  • Naughty Delivery

Thanks so much for having me here today to talk about F/F writing, and the pros and cons. I don’t exclusively write F/F, but quite a bit of my work is F/F, so I’m here to discuss it.

Pros:

  • I enjoy writing it. It’s easy, fun, and sometimes you can play with the aspect that certain characters might not realise the characters in a book are lesbians. So when the two women go into a toilet cubicle in a pub or club together, no one bats an eyelid. But they’d probably be shocked if they realised they were getting it on in the cubicle!
  • Because I’m female, I know how things work, how things physically feel, etc, so I can write with authority on this subject. No one can tell me I’m wrong, because orgasm doesn’t feel like that, or a woman wouldn’t say that, and so on. There’s no right or wrong, of course, because everybody is different, but I can write something and know for definite that it’s possible for some women. Squirting, or female ejaculation, is a good example!
  • You can explore different subject matter when writing about two women than you’d explore when writing about a man and a woman. For example, the friendship element that two women have, the things they do together that are nothing to do with sex; go clothes shopping, bitch and gossip about other people, go to spas… I’m not saying men don’t do any of these things, but I would say that straight men that do and enjoy it are in the minority. Or perhaps they just don’t admit it 😉
  • It sells better than my m/f stuff! What better reason to keep writing it?!
  • I have a high acceptance rate. I don’t know if this is because I’m good at writing it, or because writers aren’t writing so much of it, and therefore editors and publishers aren’t receiving it, but I’m certainly not complaining either way!

 

Cons:

  • People sometimes don’t get why I, as a straight woman, would write f/f. Some seem to think I’m a closet lesbian or bisexual. I explain that all it takes is a little imagination—as does any type of fiction writing—and knowledge of the female body, which, as a woman, I obviously have, and there you go! I mean, nobody accuses Stephen King of being an alien, a psychopath, a serial killer, etc, do they? Or Charlaine Harris of being a vampire, werewolf or witch? If a story pops into my imagination, I don’t mind what or who it’s about, I’m just glad the idea has come to me. So I’m not going to not write about lesbians, just because I’m not one. If people read my stuff, I’m going to carry on writing it!
  • It’s not reviewed as much as straight or gay fiction. I have no idea why this is. My f/f sells better than my other work and I get really nice feedback about it. I’ve even had people ask me to write more f/f stuff because they’ve enjoyed it so much. Unfortunately, though it’s much easier to get m/f and m/m stuff reviewed. Some review sites do not accept lesbian stuff at all. Others do accept it, but much more infrequently than other pairings. It’s sad, but there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it, I just have to try and get the word out about my work in other ways.
  • People don’t admit to reading it. Nobody’s ever admitted to not admitting to reading lesbian stuff, but it makes sense. Think about it—it’s my best selling stuff, and yet nobody reviews it and there are fewer sites out there that feature it. But unless people are buying it and not bothering to read it—which I’d say is unlikely or completely crazy—then someone is reading it. Quite a few someones, in fact. So why don’t they make comments? Sign up for sites that need reviewers and cover the lesbian titles? Leave reviews on Amazon? Whatever the reasons, I wish they’d get over it and speak up. There’s no reason to hide what fiction you’re reading, because it’s just fiction. It doesn’t make you a certain type of person, and if people judge you for it, they’re the idiots. So read whatever you like, and read it proud! The writers want to hear from you, and know you’re enjoying what they’re doing. So speak up!

Thanks again for having me here, and I look forward to hearing what your readers have to say about this piece. I’ll keep checking back for comments, so don’t leave me hanging 😉

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Three sexy Sapphic tales from the pen of Lucy Felthouse:

No Boys Allowed
When Leigh goes to meet with some potential housemates in a sought-after part of London, all she’s interested in is making a good impression. The last thing she’s expecting is to find out that one of the girls is a lesbian, like her. Kacey’s not home yet, but when she arrives, Leigh knows one thing for sure: she’s smitten. But will her feelings be reciprocated?

 

Something in Common
Nerd and amateur photographer Justine is partaking of one of her favourite pastimes—visiting a historical site—when she bumps into Amber. It turns out they’re both equally enthusiastic about exploring stately homes, abbeys, stone circles and the like—and their surprise at meeting someone with similar interests leads them on another adventure together, which doesn’t end at the site.

 

Little Miss Goody Two Shoes
Izzy and her girlfriend are visiting a beautiful stately home in the British countryside. Taking a stroll around the garden, Izzy’s shocked to see a statue of a female—totally naked. Her girlfriend, astounded that Izzy is such a prude and a Little Miss Goody Two Shoes, proceeds to show her just what fun can be had in a country garden with a statue to hide them from prying eyes.

 

More info, excerpt and buy links: http://lucyfelthouse.co.uk/published-works/no-boys-allowed/

 

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Lucy Felthouse is a very busy woman! She writes erotica and erotic romance in a variety of subgenres and pairings, and has over seventy publications to her name, with many more in the pipeline. These include Best Bondage Erotica 2012 and 2013, and Best Women’s Erotica 2013. Another string to her bow is editing, and she has edited and co-edited a number of anthologies. She owns Erotica For All, and is book editor for Cliterati. Find out more at http://www.lucyfelthouse.co.uk. Join her on Facebook and Twitter, and subscribe to her newsletter at: http://eepurl.com/gMQb9

 

Excerpt of No Boys Allowed:

Leigh checked her reflection in the glass of the street door before pressing the button corresponding to the relevant flat. Her hair and makeup had survived the stuffy and crowded Tube journey, thankfully. She was eager to make a good impression on her potential flatmates—this was an exclusive area, and rooms didn’t come up too often. Therefore living here was something she wanted very badly.

After a second or two, the speaker crackled into life, and a female voice said, “Hello?”

“Hi,” she replied, “I’m here about the room. I’m Leigh.”

“Oh, hi,” the voice sounded more enthusiastic now, “come on up.”

The buzzer sounded, and Leigh pushed the door quickly and went inside. She looked at the sign on the wall that indicated which flats were where, and made her way up a flight of stairs and along a wide corridor, towards the one she was hoping to live in.

Arriving at the correct door, she knocked on it. She heard noises from inside, the shuffling of feet and footsteps across the floor. Then a pause—perhaps the person on the other side of the door was checking her out through the peephole. Instinctively, she pulled and tugged at her clothes, making sure they were looking their best. Finally, the door opened. A tall, slim blonde stood behind it and she smiled at Leigh and stuck out her hand.

“Hi,” the blonde said, “I’m Keira. It’s nice to meet you.”

Leigh took her hand and shook it. “It’s nice to meet you too, Keira. Thanks for seeing me.”

They disengaged, then Keira stepped back and gestured Leigh inside the flat. “No problem. I hope this visit can be mutually beneficial.”

Leigh smiled. “Me too.” Her grin widened when she looked around the room. The building itself was deceptive from the front. It looked quite small, but it seemed that although it was quite narrow from left to right, its depth more than made up for it. She stood in a large, beautifully decorated open plan living room, dining room and kitchen. It was tidy—though she suspected that the occupants had cleaned up before her arrival—with lots of natural light and all the mod cons. She loved it already, and she hadn’t even seen the rest of the place yet.

“You like?” Keira asked.

“So far, I’m very impressed.”

“Well, that’s great. Let me show you the rest of the rooms, then we can sit down and have a chat over a cup of tea.”

Leigh nodded her agreement, then followed the blonde as she moved towards the first of five doors which led off the open plan area.

 

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35 thoughts on “Monday Morning Fika: The Pros and Cons of F/F Writing by Lucy Felthouse

  1. Joseph McNamara says:

    I like your idea of read what you want and step up so to speak as per the infrequency of reviews. I read across the board on many genres and find a good F/F book very provocative and engaging often. Interestingly enough, many males love to fantasize about the F/F coupling and engagement in their lives, yet won’t admit to reading it in public forums and the like. Human sensual engagement when provocatively presented will pique the eros. So why not put your review up and champion the originality of the author who gave you the experience….. Now I have another authors books to dive into. I need more that 24hrs a day to complete my eros yearning…..

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    • Ana says:

      It’s always great to hear from you, Joseph! Please do share your F/F recommendations. I am always looking for new ones.

      And yes, reviews are a great help!

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  2. Joelle Casteel says:

    Hi Lucy 🙂 Love the article, the excerpt. I’m glad to see you write f/f. While I’d seen you in various groups on Facebook, I didn’t realize you wrote f/f too. I’ll have to find those books in Goodreads and mark them want-to-read. My perspective is crazy- I love multi-gender, polyamorous books, both to read and write (although reading I’ve found a hard time finding such). When I can, I will mostly certainly buy and review your books.

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  3. Toni Sands says:

    I enjoyed your comments, Lucy. I haven’t written as much f/f as you but think you’re spot on when you say it’s all about fiction and what makes a story work. I know someone who writes dark, supernatural crime but to my knowledge she doesn’t practise killing people between supermarket visits and picking up the kids from school.

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    • Ana says:

      Hi Toni, and welcome! So great to see you here! I checked out your blog and will take a look at your books. Delighted to see another F/F writer.

      True enough about enjoying a genre without having to have experienced it.

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  4. Jade Cary says:

    Welcome, Lucy. So interesting to hear what sells and what doesn’t, and to not know why is so frustrating. Keep writing what you love. You’ve shown us that it all works out in the end.

    Best of luck to you.

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    • Ana says:

      F/F is out there! It really is. The more we think that it’s not and it won’t sell, the more we contribute to fallacies. Let’s celebrate what does work!

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    • Joelle Casteel says:

      I love f/f anal; it’s something I regularly include in my writing. While the first book in my series isn’t necessarily a good representative of the breadth of sexual activity I write, the rest of the series opens up to include all sorts of activities, fetishes, minginglings of genders.

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  5. Sheila says:

    Interesting column. Enjoyed your pro and con list. I enjoyed your Bite Wth Height. While I review for an on-line site, I think part of the problem for not getting reviews is that there are so many books out there and so few reviewers willing to read f/f (when I ask other reviewers I’m told it’s not their “thing”. While I try to review f/f books I get backlogged on the prints the site receives. Prints are guaranteed a review while e-books are not. I’ve got a list of f/f books I’d love to read and review but time constraints prohibit my ability to do it. When I do read a f/f book it is generally for fun but I will post a review of it (and all books I read) on my Goodreads and Shelfari pages and Amazon.

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    • Ana says:

      Sheila, this is a bit sad. I think there are many wonderful ebooks out there if reviewers would give them a chance. I also think there are many great F/F books if reviewers would give them a chance, too. Sigh. Although if there is a huge volume personal choice/preferences of reviewers are valid, at what point does it become something a little less benign?

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      • Sheila says:

        I agree. There are many good f/f stories. Sometimes it is finding a review site that takes them (most are selective in what they review) and sometimes it is finding a reviewer who will review. Many people worry about what others will think of them if they read f/f. I’ve gotten to the age that I do not care. I want a good story period. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with a good story.

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        • Ana says:

          What can we do? How can we make it less (whatever you want to call it)..undesirable? to review F/F fiction?

          Individuals do get to have preferences, but isn’t there a way to start opening minds? Just a crack, even?

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          • Sheila says:

            That’s a good question. I’ve seen authors and publishers make the books available for review so that is not the problem. I think the mind set of so many is that “If I read f/f, people will think I’m lesbian.” or it’s the “ick factor for me.” It is an unfortunate (stupid, closed, whatever you want to name it) mind set but I do not know how you can change that mind set. I say authors and publishers should keep doing what they are doing. Make the books available. Concentrate on the story and editing. Make it the best product you can. Go into the more mainstream romance sites and do the promo/blogs/chats and let people know what is available. Too often readers are not aware of the f/f books unless they belong to a GLBT Yahoo or Google group. Let readers know that the stories are not the voyeuristic porn written for men’s fantasies as they often were in the past. That women, and some men, are writing f/f stories that have plots and relationships are worked on and last for more than one night. And probably the biggest hope is that someone reviewing with a mainstream review site will take a chance, review the f/f books, and discover how well written they are.

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            • Ana says:

              I didn’t read (or find) my first F/F book until my friend took me to a store that specialized in LGBT books (what is with calling it GLBT these days?), so you are probably right. I still remember how shocked I was to read a story about two girls!

              I wish that F/F fiction could be accepted as part of “regular” fiction instead of being relegated to “special-interest”.

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              • Joelle Casteel says:

                As someone from that community, Ana, I’ll comment. Us non-heterosexual folk and our organizations can’t quite agree on acronyms, letters to include etc. I’ve grown used to typing one or two things- depending on how well I’m remembering to be inclusive, of LGBTQ or LGBTQI- lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex. Some prefer GLBT because G comes before L alphabetically- don’t ask me about the B though lol. There’s also a newer one, sorry I can’t remember it, but I swear it’s something like SOGI… the UN prefers this one, whatever assortment of letters. Personally I use the word “queer,” thinking on the UUA’s definition of queer, but for far too many people, that’s still a hurtful slur.

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  6. minellesbreath says:

    The discussion is great! I love your comment that it is fiction. Why is it that people feel they have to justify or analyze reading FF. I wonder if we thought of all types of love whether sexual or not, in terms of human experience would we feel more comfortable?

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  7. Frank says:

    I have always loved reading and writing F/F – and not so much from the perspective of being the male in the middle. I love the idea of two women in love.

    They say ‘write what you know’ – which is why I write about female vampires. Oh, wait.

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    • Ana says:

      For generations women have read stories of male friendship, so why not turn the tables?

      Good luck on turning into a female vampire! 🙂 Hehe.

      Thanks for stopping by!

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